2 nula: I think we have /poland,czech,slovak../ slavic language roots so we understand each other...

nula: cece, sorry.. dostal som sa k tomu ti napisat az teraz :) ziadny mail som nedostal.. kams to poslal probuh? :))

Planujemy uzyc zewnetrznej obudowy do HDD/CD-ROM - jest al;uminiowa, jej rozmiar jest odpowiedni, jest tania i jest od razu z zewnetrznym zasilaczem. Chcialbym uzyc wlasnej obudowy ale naprawde nie wiem ile moze to kosztowac :(
2xDB9 sa do emulatorow (Atari/C64/Amiga joye/myszy/wioselka + SegaMD pady) i beda w stanie dzialac jako zwykle porty wejscia/wyjscia wiec zewnetrzne galki itp. beda mozliwe. Kto wie - moze zrobimy rowniez cos takiego :)

And now for not postkomunistic users of that awesome messageboard - in english:

We are planning to make use of external HDD/CD-ROM case - it's alluminium, it's size is proper, it's cheap and it's with external power supply already :) I'd like to use custom boxes but I really don't know how much it would cost :(
2xDB9 will be for retrogaming (Atari/C64/Amiga joys/mouse/paddles + SegaMD pads) and it will be able to behave like normal input/output ports so external knobpads etc. will be possible. Who knows - maybe we will do something like that as well ;)

2Malf: Fajne chapci ze rozumiete po svojom i ja tomu rozumiem ... We dont need English anymore...

Well check this out http://www.jdc.sk/images/EM151-7.gif

They are small factory - producing miniITX cases but they do customs too...
So what about aluminium box.You know Al is better for take it to party...
I can do some documentation for manufacturing later...

What about 2x Golden Cinch + 1x Stereojack as out + switch?

What will be for that two 9" cannon plugs /retrogamming or custom knobpad/???

And dont forget extra light blue LED as PowerLED.

haha no to je jasne, jsme prece postkomunisticti bratri :)))))

Fajnie chlopaki, ze rozmawiacie po swojemu i ja to rozumiem :)

subz3ro: cece ty me snad ignorujes! =) dostals mail? ad R38 - wonderful! i'm about to get it right now!

Malfunction wow, sounds great :) and yeah, VSTi controllable option would be great, it's everything you need to controll the interface in nowadays home studio...

New version (rev.38) is available in download section. Some speed-ups for DOSBox, some cosmetics, and of course fixed the bug with program crash reported by madbrain some time ago ;)

An external case (with external power supply) with audio OUT, USB, DB25 parallel connector to interface with older computers (including 8-bit ones ;), 2xDB9 connectors to plug digital joysticks/mouse/pad (for example SMD pads ;). We will try to make it VSTi controllable, native and MIDI controllable.

malf yep that sounds wonderful :) so what will be the concept of that beauty? something like a HW synth with audio OUT and MIDI IO, i guess?

subz3ro hi man! have you got my email?

Sounds absolutely great... really looking forward to it :o)

Additional we will try to add SID-like digitally-controlled analog filter. With separated outputs from OPL3 (A=left,B=right,C=mono filter,D=who knows?;> ) one can select channels which pass through filter circuit. It should unleash hell :D

I have genuine YMF262-M Yamaha OPL3 chips :) The only trick is to get YAC512 floating-point DACs, but it's very simple to adopt onboard Zilog Acclaim! CPU to make conversion if it will be impossible to get those Yamaha DACs. Plus is that it will be possible to digital capture all OPL3 output ;) We will try our best :D
P.S. And it will be possible to play with YM2612 ;)

Malfi: Hehe, yeah.. funny said.. but it will be also some kind of resurrection for FM music in my opinion, because I see many people all over the world are still "into" this specific kind of how the sound can be :) I only hope that you assemble all good and the result will be as much identical to ISA OPL3 stuff as possible.. because as you probably know, the difference of what you can hear from different sound cards declared to be using OPL3 chip quite varies.. from absolute crap (ESS cards) to a pure crystal sound with SB AWE64 internal EMU8008 solution with integrated OPL3 interface and functionality. For me, this Creative's "crime" is the best they did so long till arrival of AWE64 if we are speaking about FM synthesis.. the whole wave-table thing and it's 64-voice polyphony (haha) was kinda marketing frustration for every AWE64 owner (not even speaking about the special memory modules used for soundfont banking... costing you a bank and even hard to get). Just so much wanted to say :) Hopefully the USB card will be great and FM sound even better than the AWE64 thingy :)

"FM-Beauty" - nice name! :D

and one fm-beauty for me, too!

One for me too :)

yeah, i got dibs on one of those pretties too! ;)

Malfunction man, you're joking! :D that sounds unbeatable! i reserve one! :D

2 Malfunction: Wow. Wow. Your way - I like it!!!

What emulation?! :) We are making HARDWARE USB synth with real OPL3 + analog filters + YM2612 socket :) Forget about emulation! Right now I have over 110 pieces of brand new OPL3 chips on my table :)

wow, a win32 port? sounds reeeeeeeeally interesting :) anyway, how would you make it play? no OPLx on nowaday's sound devices, so emulation is the option?

Hi

Does anyone know what's the right setting for "adlib_port" in adtrack2.ini when using Toshiba Tecra 520?
It has built-in OPL3-SA3 wich works nicely with Adlib Tracker II 2.0.27

Is there an easy way finding it out? BIOS doesn't have settings for OPL...:(

thanks

vintaque(at)yahoo(dot)com

elan: hmm :) but if Slawek (Malfunction) with his crew can make a port of the tracker to Win32, then it's good opportunity to go over weakness od OPL3 emulation from MAME :)

subz3ro: That is true. Well so I keep oldschool.

elan> looks interesting.. I'm only affraid about compatibility with AdT2 resp. other programs using an ISA device.. you know, that the DOS support of NTVDM under Win32 is pretty weak.. and unless this device can be used in pure DOS, we will be restricted by the NTVDM support (resp. no support :) for other stuff like LFB for VESA etc.

2 subz3ro: 135USD no v podstate je dolar za 26sk.Takze to zlacnelo.Len mi robi starosti postovne...

Write me plase ymf/at/gmail/dot/com
I am from Europe...

I am still thinking about this http://www.arstech.com/item--usb2isara.html
You know plug original ISA SB16 to USB.Is anybody interesting in this too???You know postage...

www.datasheetarchive.com/search.php?q=YMF262

Rob:

Check this out /soundcards with opl3/
http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=soundcards_with_ymf262_and_or_yac512_chips

* Creative Soundblaster Pro II (or Soundblaster Pro 2)
* Creative Soundblaster 16 (not the VALUE version!)
* Creative Soundblaster Pro SCSI
* Creative Soundblaster 16 SCSI (CT1770)
* Creative Vibra 16 (CT2260)
* Creative Vibra 16 (CT2800)
* Creative Vibra 16 (CT2810)
* Creative Vibra 16 PnP (CT2890)
* Creative SB16 MCD (CT1750)
* Media Vision Pro AudioSpectrum 16
* Media Vision Jazz 16
* Media Vision PAS16 LMSI 1992 (IXW-PAS16P)
* Media Vision PROAUDIO 3D
* Turtle Beach Tropez Rev 2.0
* Turtle Beach Monte Carlo (P/N 500.2)
* ESS AudioDrive
* Aztech Sound Galaxy
* Aztech Sound Galaxy Washington 16
* Aztech Sound Galaxy Nova 16
* Aztech AZT2316-S
* Mozart ISA
* Mediamagic ISP-16
* TeleVideo teleWave Q32=/SRS (Rev.C)
* Televideo Telesound Pro16
* Adlib Gold 1000
* Windows SOUNDSYSTEM (rev B.)
* OPTi 930 Soundsystem (S0930S0010)

Well YMf262-M is good /opl3/ M /non square sized design/ is same as S /square sized chip/ but it is only design of chips - architecture is compatible I think.
I am not 100% sure about that.

Look at OPL3 /ymf262/ datasheet http://www.datasheetarchive.com/datasheet.php?article=3598861

Yes Ikuma in old Satellite ,some Tecras and Libretto and other old notebooks are original OPL-3.
I think Toshiba is really good choice : ) I have it too...

hey hey. i finally resurrected my brother's old laptop from 1998, a Toshiba Satellite just so I could use Adlib Tracker II and guess what? It even has a Yamaha OPL3-SA3 chip inside it! (which i didn't know until yesterday).

ADLIB TRACKER II is da bomb!

Hello,

I'm trying to determine which model SoundBlaster ISA has the Yamaha OPL-3 chip and compatible with my Compaq Portable II. I've asked ebay sellers, and most don't know what I'm talking about. One says a CT1740 has a YMF262-M - don't know about the -M though.

Also, will any card work with Compaq Personal Computer DOS Version 3.31 and are drivers available?

Thanks in advance for your help!

bullis1> hmm, maybe you're out of CPU resources because of plenty macros used in the tune.. have you already tried to set the "cpu_saving" option in config file? what is your PC that you run AT2 on, btw?

@MadBrain:

That's the first song I've ever played in AT2 that didn't work right. It just sounded really sparse and got choppy about 20 seconds in. So I tried to quit the program and it scrolled of screen really funny. I'm not complaining but bravo for being the first person to tax my computer with an Adlib chiptune :) It's probably my weird soundcard's fault though, I use an IBM MWave card. It's 100% SBPRO compatible, but sometimes I have my doubts.

Anyway, I haven't posted here before, but I'd also like to say that I'm a long-time fan of AT2 and a very very long-time fan of OPL2 and 3 music and synthesis. Keep up the good work everyone!

MadBrain, I almost creamed my pants. *standing ovation*

Yeah! We will try ;)

elan: No problem :) Anyway, the sourcecode is now in the hands of some Malfunction's friend, so hopefully he can figure out something in the near future.. (am I right, Slawku? :)

Impressive sounds! Really! Great zak! :) Reminds me Leasure Suit Larry a little bit :)

Subz3ro:
It is ok I have oldschool PC with DOS... It is just idea for the future /tracker+emu opl3.../...

madbrain> good work, pal! really nice 4-op and fm-macro usage ;-)
elan> as the AdT2 for Windows.. I really don't have enough time to make that port from DOS to Win32.. if anybody feels experienced enough to do so, I can distribute full sourcecode of the tracker (it's 53.000+ uncommented lines, but the source is pretty clear imho :) so the development can continue further on.. I already asked DaNyL if he dares to do so, but he seems to have not enough time too, so somebody of you people must decide.. :)

madbrain: WoW that song is absolutly amazing !!! Jazz thing on FM!

Made a rather extensive track in Adlib Tracker II - in Big band imiation style:
http://battleofthebits.org/depository.php?act=view&track=1033

It basically shows off the awesome 4 operator mode of the opl3, and the best patches I could come up with, including a couple hard to do instruments like timpani.

You should probably check it out. (and seriously try out the 4 operator mode, it owns!)

I think daughter-board /upgrade/ will be better.Different modules...In tracker as soft-patch /instrument editor/ and on soundcard as daughter-board...

One universal tracker for composing and hardware-software modules / patches...

It is just my own opinion.

Documentation of box-case for manufacturing...

Malfunction:Wow very nice!!!I will grab my SEGA MD for sure!!!


Please then contact me email or ICQ. In summer I can do documentation for manufacturing... After summer maybe some real ABS-plast protos.


What about AdlibTracker3 /Win,Linux/???

I'd like to update status of our hardware project :)

We are on the move with making prototype CPU-board. We were unable to get OPL4 chips, but we have planty of OPL3 synths (over 100 pieces) - so this will be standard chip :) In standard it will be YM2612 socket, so if filled - it will be OPL3+YM2612 combo. I think we will be able to fill some of those sockets for the first users ;)

Besides - we are working on SID-compatible filter to post process OPL3 - selective per channel by secondary DAC :)

Besides of that we are dunno if we should add Altera FPGA for emulate digital parts of AY,POKEY,TI,SAA,SID, Multi-DAC at once (it means longer developement) or rather as a daughter-board - later?

Cheers :D

And USB opl3 key chipcard feature too... For real playback?

What about make somethig like that "opl3" from mame emulator in win32...
AdlibTracker Triple /III/??? for XP and Vista with wav export???
I can help with graphic and design I am pixel artist too.../Icons ,Gui.../